Hardware ID Change after format HDD

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DanteAlain
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Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by DanteAlain »

I`ve recently testing an exe file protected with enigma: hardward id locked (Hard Disk Serial Number Only) But after a high-level HD format the hardward id has changed.

How i can a avoid this situation??
Additionaly i need one which can not be modified by the user.

I really want to buy this product, but this matter is very importany for me.

Thanks
Alain
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by Enigma »

Hi Alain,

That's very strange, Hard Disk Serial Number is the hardware lock feature that could not be changed. This feature is trying to get serial number of hard drive (serial is flashed into drive by manufacture) which could not be changed, moreover after formatting... I never heard any issues from any customer about changing of drive serial. Maybe you used System Volume Serial number, that could be changed after formatting?

Also, as an advice, try to compare hardware id that you get before and after formatting with the Hardware ID Checker tool (main menu - Tools - Hardware ID Checker), maybe in the one of the cases Enigma just was not able to extract a serial by some reasons...

If you have a time and can reproduce this hardware changing, I could give you a debug version that generates an execution log, and we could compare two logs and see why there are different hardware id.

Regarding other hardware locking features - almost all of them have own specific disadvantages. Like, Motherboard return hardware id only if the file run with admin rights, CPU could be disabled by the BIOS on some PC etc.

Regards
Vladimir
DanteAlain
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by DanteAlain »

Thanks for your quick response
I will follow your advices

i`ll leave my comments after testing again
DanteAlain
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by DanteAlain »

I tried it again, but the same result :(

This is mi PC with Windows 7 64 bit:
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Then, i apply a complete format and install Windows XP, i run the same protected file and now:

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The hardware id change, and the hardware id ckecker show that.

when only check the second hardware id shows this:
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Thanks for your time
Enigma
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by Enigma »

Hm, really, in the second ID Enigma was not able to retrieve hdd serial. I already had same problem, it is impossible to get hdd serial from RAID disks, but it seems some OS incompatibility.

Do you install Windows on a real hdd, or under some virtualization tools like VMWare, Virtual PC?

Anyway, it is very strange that Enigma can't get serial of same hdd on different Windows versions.

If you have a time, I could send you few examples, that get hdd serial, and maybe we will be able to solve this problem. What do you think?
DanteAlain
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by DanteAlain »

Hi
I've been testing, in the same machine i did a new format but now installing VISTA ultimate, and now i have a new hardware ID:
011352-0835E9
I dont use any virtualization system, its in real hdd.
So i have 3 different hardwared id according OS Version in the same pc, and other thing, if i return to seven or Xp, each one keeps its proper hardware id.
I have a friend whit a cybercafe, now i will test mi exe file protected in several machines and i'll report the result
thanks
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by Enigma »

Thanks for the testing, really, it is interesting situation and I would be glad to send you debug version to see, what really Enigma gets from your HDD. Let me know if it is possible, I will send you test file!
DanteAlain
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by DanteAlain »

Of course this is a direct link with my file protected:

http://sd-2.archive-host.com/membres/up ... tected.exe

Is a non-comercial VB app. i take it just for testing puposes

i have bad news, in my test at cybercafe i run the file in over eleven different pc ( all with WinXP SP3) two of them give me the same hardware id:

CB3252-08C2CC

The same shows by my pc runs win xp!

I check the model and brand of their Hd and didt match in any way

Thanks for your time
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by prasid »

DanteAlain wrote: i have bad news, in my test at cybercafe i run the file in over eleven different pc ( all with WinXP SP3) two of them give me the same hardware id:

CB3252-08C2CC

The same shows by my pc runs win xp!
It's very strange. I download your protected application and run. See below

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ID is not same in this case. Also I use WinXP SP3.
Daniel
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Re: Hardware ID Change after format HDD

Post by Daniel »

Here I tried as well XP SP3 CZ and got 1F9B52-08431F
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